You aren't making much sense my friend.

Multiple accounts are still fine.

Using ISBoxer to control them all with simultaneously is not fine.

Are you seriously asking us to believe that if the program you use to "auto pilot or dock" your 4 accounts with is taken away things will become to complicated for you and you'll need to cancel accounts? REALLY?

68 pages of botter tears, excuses, predicting the death of a 10 year old game, playing dumb like CCP is banning keyboards and OSs that have scripting built in lol <3 The botter rage has kept me warm all morning and it's raining ice outside.

I can't believe I read every comment, but it was just so engaging. Did you botters log in all your accounts and post all at once or did you whine individually from each account? I guess the latter will be good practice for when you actually have to play the game like everyone else.

and this is covered by EULA already (prohibited). so enjoy your ban.



so then, we're gucci, arent we?
You're doing it without isbotter and everyone is happy.

prime example of why it's considered cheating:

the starcraft league's back in the day, where people had build orders, hot keys, ways to micro manage their build orders and what not..

they still do. that's skill.

what you are doing is akin to the old diablo2 lod trainers and bots that would farm for gold or any other games that would farm for you on multiple machines based on colors on the screen.


completely without skill

feed me your tears please!!!!!!!!!!

you are only showing how low you had to stoop to beat people with skill, because you have none.

its like professional athletes that have to use performance enhancing drugs to beat the players that can do it because they just are that good and they train hard, and are professionals, people WITH SKILL.

to recap, micro managing used to win people money back in the star craft tournaments, still do today... a hot key not a script, but i dont think you know what im talking about because you act like you have skills and are a gamer, any tool can go do what you have done. i could teach my gramma how to do what you do.

i could probably teach a dog how to do it, im sure a monkey could.. if you could teach a monkey how to point at the dot on the screen and told it to press a key, it could make bombing runs for you...

but okay.. enough. im done.. i seriously dont think you even understand what im getting at, either you are attempting to troll even harder because you have been trolling this whole time using this type of program, or you are just not seeing what's going on here...

it's like putting peyton manning in little league basically..

are you serious guys? your going to complain?

just .. yes please do complain, this is the best, the best fun ive had in a week or two.. maybe.. lolz!!!!!!!!

because you lack motor skills to do it by yourself, you use 3rd party software for automation your sh*t - this is why we dont like it.


you know why you use isbotter, dont you? Otherwise you wouldnt.


me too

it controls your isbotted clients by input broadcast, why you use it actually.


yes, on your isbotted clients it targets things for you, you are targetting on your main client, its one of the reasons you use it.


yes it pilots your ships for you, following commands if your main client.


this is a stupid argument.
An ratting bot does things in ways eve player would do them too.
An aimbot in a shooter would do things human player would do.
But better, quicker or more automated.

no, I dont like it because you save work using automation tools to achieve things against EULA.
I hate aimbots in shooters in same way I hate isbotter in eve, wouldnt you?

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At least no more clone upgrade costs anymore.

All these selfish people who always only see their own interests
and never care about anything else but themselves.

Disgusting freaks.

The amount of bullshit some people's minds come up with
just to feel justified in whining, raging or crying about this change is flabbergasting.


Most of you people who complain about this lack any decency,
or dignity, or understanding of this game beyond your small scope you call "viewpoint".


It's no loss at all when you are gone.

Blah blah blah.

Its most gameplay affecting feature was.

It's constantly peitioning everyone.

No need for more "nerfs" just more bans.

And maybe Updates regarding

If this would be the case the plex price wouldn't have dropped from 1 billion to 800 million after the announcement of the multicast ban and stay on this level since the change.

Why cancel subscription on plexed accounts if the main feature of something is not touched by a change?

WOW has 8m subscribers and allows FULL UI customization, ISBoxer and macros (to an extent as long as your at the keyboard).... EVE might have 500k subs (probably way less, but we cant get any numbers) and has decided that since they are experts in how an MMO should run, they will start banning people who multibox too effectively.

I am glad they are putting in the bans. Going against multiple perfectly timed logistics, snipers and such really sucked.

how do these tools directly interact with the game world, like at all? nothing about them is even remotely related to the client controlling stuff isboxer does. which unfair advantage do tools like pyfa give? please elaborate on your bullshit statement.
you need to seriously open your eyes.

then you grandiose ****** should read again what i wrote. not a single one of the tools mentioned interact with the client in a way that has an unfair advantage to the game world. siggy does not provide you with intel tools which are unvailable thru other means, eft does not allow you to fit modules which are otherwise unfittable, eve-central does not show you orders unavailable to others. yet isboxer allows you to controll more clients at once than would be humanly possible without it. see where we are going dude?

Comming back from ccp visit in iceland ee have seen how they handle the detection and follow up on boxer use. I can asure hou its very carefull and i was amazed at the detials and insight. I cant tell what and so ofc, to breach my non dosclosure.

I run 3 accounts on eve as its my passion, the g+ñme atracts me, the blocking of this hardly compairs too the jita riots and moncole gate, where a underlying mentality in ccp was the cause, taking cate of multiboxing as unfair advantage is somthing which the 99 procent of gamers agree with and which keeps them playing eve.

Each time changes come poeple will whine and *****, which doesnt make it w bad thing for the long term heatlh of eve online

Please be sure to give an email address to one of your ingame friends because if CCP decide you are breaking the rules (as suggested by CCP Pelligro) and ban you, your friend can come to this thread to let us know.

Do keep in mind though, the new rules rely heavily on "Player Policing" . Maybe you and the other person you know just haven't been reported yet so hadn't come to CCP's attention.
You did just remove the need for player policing though by advertising your breach of the rules (as per CCP Pelligro) on the forums.

This is based on what? Your extensive knowledge of CCP's backend systems, our logs and our detection code?

No...not really. Efficiency is pretty clearly defined. A reduction in effort or other inputs. Lucas has spent page after page of saying ISBoxer reduces effort. And Lucas noted it allows people to run more clients than they otherwise could.

And I suspect the reason they did this is that they were concerned about ISK flowing into the game as well as mined resources. The former can accelerate the rate of inflation, the latter depresses the price of those resources.

But cheer up...maybe someday deflation will become a ThingGäó and CCP will revoke this ban on broadcasting so that the money supply increases leading to inflation. Although personally, if deflation does become a ThingGäó that will be very, very bad and your days of using ISBoxer would again be limited....as would your days in Eve.

This does sound like a step in the right direction.

I think even just being able to link your accounts/clients in game in more user friendly way would be great.

For example in a fleet If I warp my clients to a gate I have to swap to every player and click "jump". It's annoying. But If I click a gate on each client I can select "warp and jump through gate". It would great to be able to warp my whole fleet and jump them all through gate. Same thing goes for docking my clients in station, Warp fleet and dock them all pls.

Another feature I would like to see for multiple clients is a follow command, so my client will follow my main like a pack of wolves behind me, jumping through gates and following me on missions. I would swap to the clients once mission or pvp location has been arrived at, I know auto pilot exists but it's slow, and you need to setup route on each client. Follow command would work for me here.

Generally speaking just make the game a bit more user friendly for multiple clients using little things like the above.

It would need some authentication token to create the link between accounts/clients, which would then link the characters. Allow those linked clients the follow command and upgraded fleet warp pls.

Rambling done. Good work CCP keep it up